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Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by Jema

Jema — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:52:50 +0000

I’ve been scouring this article in the hope of purchasing a new non-picable non bump proof lock. As a mere member of the public information in the article is very confusing so I am hoping someone can help me. The story is I was recently burgled and couldn’t claim insurance. They came in through the front door which is inside a block of security door flats of which mine is one on the second floor. I have a Unican keypad lock and a mortice chubb 5 lever. How did they gain entry? They left no sign. No one would have ever known they were here apart from the fact that all my property was missing. Please give me some feedback as I have not idea where to go from here. Thanks

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by bob

bob — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:29:38 +0000

youcan but a ton of these at bumkeys.com. i got a shlage on for 5 bucks, ad it opens every shlage lock ive ever tried it on.

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by Collin Brideau

Collin Brideau — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:16:06 +0000

Mr. Larson,

I was wondering if there was any way you could make either another video about the bump key that shows how the key starts out, or possibly send me one. I can assure you it would not be for illegal use, i just don’t feel comfortable leaving a spare house key on my porch. Please send me an e-mail as soon as possible. bubbaboy_3@hotmail.com

Thank you very much,
Collin B.

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by jd

jd — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:10:53 +0000

need to open safe, it has a keypad and round key int-re can i bypass key coding KEY

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by lockbumping

lockbumping — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:09:18 +0000

Public service site about lock bumping. They have a lot of information.

http://lockbumping.org

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by Linda

Linda — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:06:49 +0000

Hi – all of you who are faulting this guy for posting this on video because “the criminals” will learn. I’m quite sure the criminals already know the scoop. They’re always the first to know and the honest people the last because honest people don’t waste their time trying to think up ways to steal. Likewise, the criminals always know where to buy the guns and the drug takers where to buy the drugs. We’re not looking for those things because we are trying to live productive lives and not dishonest ones. This is great information to know and if there is truly a bump-proof lock out there, I for one would like to know which one it is. Thanks for posting very informative and possibly life saving information.

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by Linda

Linda — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:06:30 +0000

Hi – all of you who are faulting this guy for posting this on video because “the criminals” will learn. I’m quite sure the criminals already know the scoop. They’re always the first to know and the honest people the last because honest people don’t waste their time trying to think up ways to steal. Likewise, the criminals always know where to buy the guns and the drug takers where to buy the drugs. We’re not looking for those things because we are trying to live productive lives and no dishonest ones. This is great information to know and if there is truly a bump-proof lock out there, I for one would like to know which one it is. Thanks for posting very informative and possibly life saving information.

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by Matt

Matt — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:46:46 +0000

Hey Tyler,

Brilliant video. I understood the physics behind it and how simple it was to make it. However, I’m not in a position to purchase a machine or buy pre-cut keys off the net. Therefore, my question is this. What kind of file can you use to shave off the little excess areas inbetween the ridges. You said the one you used was from Home Depot. The keys, however, have very small gaps. Any ideas?

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by Karin

Karin — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:09:13 +0000

Tyler,
If you could please shoot me an email to karin[AT]k-sit.com please. I have a question I would like to ask you about you fantastic “Far Side” Cows picture. Regards, Karin

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by Robert Fischer

Robert Fischer — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:31:33 +0000

Hi Tyler,

This comment is in regards to your post on slashdot forums about enabling VT on a dv2000 laptop. I could find no better way to reach you.

Your post is below:
I’ve been running bios version f.22 (12/11/2006) on my intel HP dv2000, and it allows you to enable VT in bios. I had to reboot a few times, but it works correctly now. The download link for this bios ver is listed in TFA near the bottom. It’s not an “offical” release from HP, probably an internal testing release, and it’s not linked from HP’s site.
It’s nice to know that they’re working on it, though, and they do have a preliminary solution for those of us who REALLY need it.

I have searched for literally 30+ hours for this/other bios’s for the dv2000 with the VT enabled. Any assistance you could provide would be GREATLY GREATLY appreciated. I reallllly need VT to work.

Thank you very much,

Robert Fischer

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by Lock Bumping

Lock Bumping — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:50:25 +0000

Public service site about lock bumping and how to protect yourself against it!

http://LockBumping.org

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by Devon

Devon — Thu, 24 May 2007 18:13:52 +0000

Hey, so i was watching the video , ive watched it about 5 times lol
I still dont understand how to make a bump key, because i dont kno where to file the key down to. can u zoom in on the camera or sumthing? Because i dont understand where ur filing.

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by Christy K

Christy K — Wed, 16 May 2007 13:25:27 +0000

PS….after they gained access, how did they relock the door??? (I used deadbolts…from Kwikset, Schlaage, etc)

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by Christy K

Christy K — Wed, 16 May 2007 13:13:14 +0000

Thank you so much for this education! I endured four years of constants breakins and robberies. WHen I would complain to the local law enforcement about it, and the kids downstairs kept breaking in, they would come by, take a look, and say, “But there is no sign of forced entry”. I kept changing locks…to the tune of nearly $300.00….a new lock every few weeks. All to no avail. The one boy downstairs spent time for drugs and alcohol in a juvinile center…he obviously came out better educated on how to be a more effective criminal. What I’d like to know is how did they bypass the ADT system that I had installed? They even got past the security cameras. I spent about $1500.00 to secure my apartment, and nothing worked. But at least now I know how they were getting in! Thank you very much for this information!

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by JW KURTZ

JW KURTZ — Fri, 11 May 2007 10:32:15 +0000

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING AND THEY WANT IT , THEY WILL GET IT, BUMP OR NO BUMP.AFTER ALL IT’S NOT SO HARD TO FIND AN OPEN OR BREAK A WINDOW GLASS, YES MORE OBVIOUS (DURING THE DAY)BUT I’LL BET sTILL MORE COMMON.I USE A CHAIN STOP WHEN AT HOME AND A DOBERMAN WHEN I AM NOT. COMMON SENSE AND AWARENESS ARE STILL THE BEST PROTECTION IN MY BOOK.HOW MANY OF YOU PEOPLE RESTRICTING FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND FREE SHAREING OF INFORMATION,

Comment on Bump Keying HowTo by Brett Fulford

Brett Fulford — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:05:07 +0000

Hi, Tyler – I noticed your site and found it very informative. Please do not look at this as advertisement but the product Lock Jaw (www.lockjawsecurity.com) is a very simple concept that we have patented that works with most single cylinder deadbolts. It prevents the bolt throw (of the deadbolt) from retracting. We developed this 3 years ago under the premise of not being able to unlock a deadbolt with the actual key and make it portable. You can only engage it from inside the dwelling; again, because it is portable. When “lock bumping” hit the web, news stations began contacting us, because folks can not afford $100 – $150 dollars for a deadbolt. Lock Jaw is significantly less. Best regards, Brett

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by real locksmith

real locksmith — Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:57:23 +0000

I wouldn’t call the physics complicated. Basically lock picking works because the tumblers inside a lock are never perfectly aligned, so when you put some torque on the cylinder plug one tumbler will bind inside of the cylinder housing. The bound pin is the pin that needs to be picked, and if you move the bound pin to the correct position, the lock will turn slightly and bind on the next pin.
Bumping is more a raking technique (like the old bobby pin method) then a picking technique in my opinion; you put some torque on the lock and run the key in and out. Or another technique is run the key in one time quickly. No matter how you pick or bump, if there’s even one mushroom pin inside the lock, when you put torque on the cylinder plug the mushroom pin is going to allow the cylinder plug to turn slightly, and the holes in the cylinder plug are simply not going to line up with the holes in the cylinder housing. This will bind the lock and render bumping/picking almost useless.
I’m not saying that a lock with mushroom pins is impossible to pick; generally when picking these I try to push the bottom pins all the way into the cylinder housing and pick by dropping the bottom tumblers rather than raising them, therefor not allowing the cylinder plug to bind. What I am saying is that mushroom pins will make it much less likely for bump keys to work. I pick locks a lot. I can pick a lock with mushroom pins _maybe_ 1 out of 5 times. Add a good tumbler combo (16161 or something) to the equation and even a good professional locksmith will not be able to pick it, even in an hours time (at a job I pick for 2 minutes then it’s time to drill. Cylinders for Shlage are $14 my cost, and Kwickset cylinders are $7). As earlier mentioned, even a combo like 00000 or 01001 would be hard to bump (not hard to pick), because bump keys just do not bounce the tumblers high enough to get the low bit combos. Even if bump keys did bounce the pins high enough to hit the low bits, a bump key would not bounce one pin all the way up to a 0 and another only to a six without binding the cylinder plug (which is why good locks use mushroom pins).
What I see on this page is people saying “I can pick every single lock with bump keys”. This is not true. Instead of saying that you can pick every lock, I’d like to see video footage of someone pinning a lock with mushroom pins and a good combo and then bumping the lock. Take your camera, point it at yourself, replace your 14mc cutter with your 47degree cutter, and cut a SC1 to 06060. Then drop your top pins and replace them with mushroom pins, and pin it up so we can see the depths of the bottom pins in your pin kit, and bump it with no camera cuts. I know that I’ll never see this footage because it can’t be done.

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by John

John — Sun, 08 Apr 2007 10:45:37 +0000

The comments from so called experts are incorrect. There is no such thing as a ‘good combinations’ Mushroom and spool pins dont do anything either. There are several bumping techniques and some are highly efficient at overcoming the resistant combinations and shaped pins. It is mooted that it is impossible to make a ‘standard’ pin tumbler lock immune to bumping. That too is incorrect. I agree that people are being mislead as to the level of threat and the remedies. Save your money because bumping will be very old news in about 2 months time. If you take a very close look at all the TV news items you will notice something common and that didnt happen by accident. Some major US companies have exploited bumping by using the fear of crime to promote their products and they should be ashamed. There are no recognised tests or standards anywhere in the world with regards to bumping and it wil take at least another 12 months before there are any. The physics behind bumping is far more complicated and subtle than people realise, however the physics behind defeating isnt.

Comment on Bump Key Follow Up by Dave

Dave — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:48:48 +0000

After seeing a news clip on bump keys, I ordered a set of bump keys off the internet. Not to burglerize, but out of curiousity. Four different people from work figured out how to do it in 5 minutes or less (master lock). This is scary stuff, and I’ll probably be replacing locks real soon. No more cheap locks.

Comment on All About Perception by Alex Ross

Alex Ross — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:50:19 +0000

I grew up in Fairbanks, Alaska. In the winter, we regularly see temperatures of -20ºF, and we regularly (at least once per winter) experience two week stretches where the temperature does not exceed -40ºF. In the springtime, the temperature will change almost overnight to a balmy 20ºF. People go crazy. We make snow-men in our jeans and t-shirts, go sledding in our shoes, etc. Now, I live in Portland, OR. Here, the temperature drops to 32ºF and people put on their parkas. You’re right: perception is everything.